The Moral Economy of the Shire

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There’s a certain meme that I see making the rounds on Facebook every so often about the bucolic nature of life in the Shire, from Tolkien’s The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings, and because I am the way that I am, every time I see it, it makes me start thinking. “Are there taxes in the Shire? If not, how does the government function? Are there worries? Does the lack of taxes relate to the lack of worries? How do people think a whole economic system built around drinking and pipe-smoking even works?” Luckily, I think there are answers to this. Tolkien does not describe the political economy of the Hobbits in any detail, because it’s rarely relevant to the story, but I think we can learn a lot about it from what he does mention. In Tolkien’s legendarium, the Shire is built out an idealized version of rural English society. By looking at how he depicts this–and what eventually happens to it–we can learn a lot about how these sorts of societies function and change over time, and what the benefits and drawbacks of living life Hobbit-style really are.

We’ll begin with a quick sketch of the Shire’s government. This won’t take long, because there’s not much of it. We’re told explicitly, right at the start of Lord of the Rings:

The Shire at this time had hardly any ‘government’. Families for the most part managed their own affairs. Growing food and eating it occupied most of their time. In other matters they were, as a rule, generous and not greedy, but contented and moderate, so that estates, farms, workshops, and small trades tended to remain unchanged for generations.

The Fellowship of the Ring, J.R.R. Tolkien, pg. 9

Legally speaking, the Shire took the form of a royal grant from King Argeleb II to the brothers Marcho and Blanco in 1601 TA, granting their people the right to settle the lands between the Brandywine River and the Far Downs, in return for which they were to maintain the bridges and roads, aid the King’s couriers, and acknowledge him as liege-lord. After the downfall of the Kingdom of Arnor, the Hobbits chose to maintain this legal continuity by establishing the office of Thain, a hereditary chieftainship who could take the place of the absent monarch. This office originally belonged to the Oldbuck family, but some centuries prior to the events of Lord of the Rings had passed to the Tooks. The Thain was the nominal Head of State for the Shire, and had the authority to summon the moot and muster in times of emergency, but this was mostly ceremonial, given the lack of emergencies.

The only other office of note was the Mayor of Michel Delving, elected every seven years at the Free Fair at Midsummer. The Mayor’s only real task was to preside over banquets, but by tradition and custom, he also held the posts of Postmaster and First Sheriff, thus controlling the only two governmental organs of note, the Messenger Service and the Watch. The former does exactly what you’d expect, the latter was the closest thing the Shire had to a police force, though it was a fully-volunteer outfit whose main tasks were rounding up stray livestock and discouraging “outsiders” from entering the Shire.

We can conclude from this, right away, that yes, the Shire likely had few, if any taxes. Individual taxation requires a large administrative apparatus to collect, and large numbers of full-time bureaucrats, which is why it was so rare in Medieval Europe. (This is the irony of George R.R. Martin’s famous complaint of “what was Aragorn’s tax policy?” He probably didn’t have one, and depended on feudal vassals to administer his holdings.) The minimal government of the Shire would likely have been funded out of bridge and road tolls, tariffs, and/or theoretically-voluntary gifts from elite families, a common custom in Ancient Mediterranean democracies such as Athens.

But what does this tell us about the broader social and economic structures of Hobbit society? The implication in both books and movies is that most Hobbits spent their time either farming or enjoying leisure time, but this makes little sense, when one considers what we know about premodern agriculture and what little of life and culture in the Shire. This could describe a pure subsistence economy, based around producing just enough food to ensure survival, and some of the text seems to suggest that, but it’s clear that that can’t be true. The Shire has a well-developed economy, with mills, full-time craftsmen, inns, and the large-scale cultivation of luxury crops, despite having almost no foreign trade (Southfarthing pipe-weed being found as far away as Isengard is taken as proof of Saruman’s meddling) or industry. Premodern agriculture was characterized primarily as being low-surplus and high-labor, it takes a lot of people a lot of time to produce enough food for everyone to eat, and there’s rarely much left over. How does this jibe with the leisurely lives of simple pleasure that our Hobbit heroes seem to enjoy?

There’s actually a very obvious answer, which is that our protagonists aren’t typical Hobbits. Bilbo, Frodo, Merry, and Pippin are all very clearly members of the landed gentry, the landowning class that controls most means of economic production and maintains social dominance over the Shire. This isn’t really extrapolation or interpretation, it’s more-or-less text, and I suspect the only reason it’s not spelled out is because Tolkien assumed any reader would understand that intuitively. Bilbo and Frodo are both gentlemen of leisure because the Baggins family is independently wealthy, and that wealth almost has to come from land ownership, because there isn’t enough industry or trade to sustain it. They can afford to go on adventures and study Elven poetry because they draw their income from tenant farmers renting their land. Merry and Pippin are from an even higher social tier; both are the heirs to powerful families that hold quasi-feudal offices (the Master of Buckland, for the Brandybucks, and the Thain, for the Tooks).

It’s kinda weird that there aren’t any crops

As I said before, this is the traditional system of social organization in the English countryside, sometimes known as “squirearchy”. The gentry, in this paradigm, aren’t nobility–they don’t have a distinct set of legal privileges. Serfdom, or other forms of labor bound to the land, doesn’t seem to exist, and there’s no evidence of military vassalage as an organizing principle. Instead, we can see that a relatively small number of families owns much of the land, and much of the agricultural capital–mills, granaries, oxen, plows, etc–allowing them to wield a high level of informal economic and social control over their community. Most other Hobbits would either be tenant farmers, paying most of their produce back to their landlords in rents, or yeomen, independent small farmers who owned their own land, but were still dependent on the gentry in many respects. We can see a small, burgeoning urban bourgeois emerging in the small towns and villages, perhaps, but without foreign trade or industrialization, this can’t grow to challenge the gentry, and no proletariat is likely to exist yet.

Understanding this sheds a great deal of light on Tolkien’s explanation of the Shire’s governance. The lack of much organized administration is not, as some suggest, a form of democratic anarchism, but instead the result of elite control.

All Hobbits were, in any case, clannish and reckoned up their relationships with great care. They drew long and elaborate family-trees with innumerable branches.

The Thainship had ceased to be more than a nominal dignity. The Took family was still, indeed, accorded a special respect, for it remained both numerous and exceedingly wealthy.

The Fellowship of the Ring, J.R.R. Tolkien, pgs. 7, 9

This is a society organized around family and clan dynamics, where power flows not from the office, but from who you know, and the web of favors, debts, and relationships you can call upon. The Tooks are not powerful because they hold the Thainship, they hold the Thainship as a signifier of being “the first family” of the Shire, in terms of wealth and influence. The Mayor of Michel Delving’s main job is to preside over banquets because, in a political structure like this, those sort of social events are where everything is actually decided and established, in the subtle, informal relationships between the families who own everything. There’s no bureaucracy or administrative apparatus because there is no need for one. The Shire is not conducting war or diplomacy or trade, and isn’t administering large populations of subjects, and there would be no reason for the Oldbucks, Brandybucks, Tooks, etc to support the kind of centralization of state power that could challenge their informal reign.

From everything we’re told, the Shire is a very agriculturally productive region, which helps explain the lack of debt-peonage or other forms of unfree labor. It also explains the relative “looseness” of the system we’re looking at here; the gap between the lower gentry and upper yeomanry isn’t very large, and most families are able to support themselves with only minimal assistance.

The other term we need to know if we want to understand the Shire is “clientelism”, perhaps more commonly refereed to as “patron-client relationships”. This is a social-political structure that emerges organically in many different contexts, and consists of a set of mutual, hierarchical obligations between powerful “patrons” and a network of “clients” who depend on them, economically, socially, or politically. It seems likely, from what we see of the Shire, that clientelism is the main organizing force within Hobbit politics. This would be far from unusual, in this sort of system.

But because our small subsistence farmers are mostly focused on controlling and mitigating risk rather than enhancing raw yields, often the most important thing they could get from the large landholder was not a tangible thing at all: access to vertical patronage ties. Just like the smallholders could establish horizontal ties with fellow small farmers, they could also try to establish those ties with the big fellow in the big house. Of course the mechanisms for establishing the ties were different: few peasants could banquet an aristocrat and most aristocrats would be insulted by a suggestion of an alliance through marriage. Instead the ties were strictly vertical – that is they were unequal. They often began with the farmer working at least a bit as a tenant on the big farm, but also typically included political support, sometimes military support (that is, coming out to fight when the large landholder did, often as common troops in his retinue) and no small amount of social deference.

Collections: Bread, How Did They Make It? Part II: Big Farms, Brett Devereaux (Source)

To understand this, let’s look at a prototypical example of this; the relationship between the Baggins and the Gamgees.

Both Samwise Gamgee and his father, Hamfast Gamgee, are employed by Bilbo and Frodo Baggins, but the relationship is clearly far deeper than that. Throughout Lord of the Rings, Frodo treats Sam almost a feudal retainer, not just a person in a employee relationship, but someone who owes personal fealty to him, an attitude clearly reciprocated by Sam. There’s affection, friendship, and even love between them, but in the context of a hierarchical relationship. It’s never in question who “Mister Frodo” is, though it’s clear that this loyalty comes with expectations and obligations. Sam is not a slave, not is he bound by oaths of vassalage, or contract. He is loyal because he is expected to be, and because the Baggins repay loyalty with patronage, both to him, and his family.

The poorer Hobbits, and especially those of Bagshot Row, did very well. Old Gaffer Gamgee got two sacks of potatoes, a new spade, a woolen waistcoat, and a bottle of ointment for creaking joints.

“Well, you can’t say fairer than that,” said the gaffer. “Mr. Frodo Baggins is a real gentlehobbit, I always have said, whatever you may think of some others of the name, begging your pardon. And I hope my Sam’s behaved hisself and given satisfaction?”

The Fellowship of the Rings, J.R.R. Tolkien, pg. 37

The Return of the King, J.R.R. Tolkien, pg. 991

The Gamgees are likely tenants of the Baggins, or at least dependent on them for access to agricultural capital. They likely send much of their income up to Bag End in rent, and provide services, as gardeners, batmen, valets, traveling companions, etc. They also provide support, in a social and civic sense, as we see. If Frodo had gone to the Free Fair to run for Mayor, the Gamgees and other tenants would have voted for him, and would have accompanied him in public, to demonstrate his status and prestige. But in return for this, they could expect generous gifts on holidays, loans of money on favorable terms, lax enforcement of rental arrears in time of drought and famine, and legal support in disputes.

Tolkien himself said that Sam was inspired by his experience as a young Lieutenant in the Lancashire Fusiliers in WWI.

My Sam Gamgee is indeed a reflexion of the English soldier, of the privates and batmen I knew in the 1914 war, and recognized as so far superior to myself

J.R.R. Tolkien: A Biography, ed. Humphrey Carpenter, pg. 89

This, however, should not surprise us. Tolkien was serving in the British Army, and armies are always embryonic reflections of the societies that raised them.

For bachelors Bilbo and Frodo, these were personal, individual relationships. But the norm was likely closer to webs of debts, favors, and obligations, traded back and forth between families, cemented by marriage alliances and social ties. We’re told repeatedly that gift-giving and hosting feasts are two of the primary preoccupations of Hobbits. To modern ears, this may come across as utopian, or idyllic, but these sorts of status displays were a key part of many economic and social systems. In many Pacific Northwest Native American tribes, this was known as “potlatch“, and served as both a political and economic system, in which conspicuous displays of generosity were used to denote power and prestige. The Shire clearly has a monetary economy, but gift-giving remains important. The entire first chapter of Lord of the Rings is devoted to Bilbo’s 111st birthday party, which is a huge event that attracts intense attention from across Hobbit society, and involves massive displays of largess, solidifying the Baggins’ social position, and cementing ties with neighboring families and rival clans. Or at least, it would have been, if Bilbo hadn’t had an ulterior motive.

I think all of this is pretty reasonable extrapolation from the text. Tolkien was decidedly not writing direct allegories, but he made no secret of the fact that he was drawing upon his substantial academic knowledge of premodern history and society to shape his world. That’s a big part of why it works so well. But what I find fascinating about this topic is the way in which Lord of the Rings doesn’t just depict the traditional agricultural political economy, but the way in which it demonstrates what happened to it.

The title of this post is taken from the 1976 book The Moral Economy of the Peasant: Rebellion and Subsistence in Southeast Asia, by James C. Scott, which I read in undergrad. The book analyzes a series of peasant insurrections in Indochina and Burma in the 1930s, and argues that their root causes was the disruption of traditional sociopolitical and cultural norms, the so-called “moral economy” by colonialism and market capitalism. Of key importance was his contention that the casus belli was not only, or even primarily, increased exploitation in a purely material sense, but the disruption to traditional patronage networks that had sustained them for generations. Peasant households should not be seen as small businesses, trying to maximize their annual profits, but as people trying to survive. A single failed harvest could mean death, and in this situation, the patronage networks were a vital social safety net. A peasant in this system gave most of his income to his landlord, without fail, but he could trust that in case of disaster, he would have some recourse.

More modern market economics brought opportunity–but also risk. As landowners became integrated into the globalized economy, backed up the military might of colonial regimes, they had less and less reason to uphold the traditional bargains with their tenants and smallholders. Plantation-style cultivation of cash crops for market could produce riches, but also catastrophe in the case of drought, famine, or economic downturn–all of which occurred in Vietnam in the 1930s. Traditional elites in Indochina had often been lenient regarding peasants, because they had to be, unable to strictly enforce taxation or rent in times of scarcity, and dependent for social and political support on their clients. That was not the case for French authorities in Saigon and Hanoi. On the very first page, Scott describes “the position of the rural population” as “that of a man standing permanently up to his neck in water, so that even a ripple might drown him.” (Moral Economy, pg. vii). The perhaps counterintuitive conclusion is that peasants are often quite conservative. They’ll fight to support the social order, if they think it’s in their interests, and are often quite wary of change. The arrival of deracinated capitalism could be quite advantageous, in the long run, but in the short run could destroy communities that had found a rough balance of survival.

Another famous example of this is the Great Peasants’ War of 1524-1525, in the Holy Roman Empire. Reading the Twelve Articles, one of the lists of grievances drawn up by Swabian peasant leaders, it is noteworthy how they are couched in a language of conservatism and tradition, demanding the restoration of ancient privileges, justified in religious language. Of the demands, Four, Five, and Ten are in regards to traditional feudal privileges that were being eroded, rights of fishing, hunting, gathering wood, etc. Six, Seven, and Eight are demanding regulation of the customary labor provided by peasants to their lords, insisting on lower rents and quotas. I don’t think anyone would argue that European farmers in Germany today aren’t better off now than they were in the 1500s. But the period of economic transition could be brutal.

This process of consolidation and commercialization undermining traditional social arrangements can be seen in the Shire, mostly in the last few chapters of The Return of the King, when our heroes return from abroad.

“It all began with Pimple, as we call him,” said Farmer Cotton; “and it began as soon as you’d gone off, Mr. Frodo. He’d funny ideas, had Pimple. Seems he wanted to own everything himself, and then order other folks about. It soon came out that he already did own a sight more than was good for him; and he was always grabbing more, though where he got the money was a mystery: mills and malt-houses and inns, and farms, and leaf-plantations………of course, he started with a lot of property in the Southfarthing which he had from his dad; and it seems he’d been selling a lot o’ the best leaf, and sending it away quietly for a year or two. But at the end o’ last year he began sending away loads of stuff, not only leaf. Things began to get short, and winter coming on, too. Folk got angry, but he had his answear. A lot of Men, ruffians mostly, came with great waggons, some to carry off the goods south-away, and others to stay. And more came.”

The Return of the King, J.R.R. Tolkien, pg. 989

Lotho Sackville-Baggins was a member of the Shire’s gentry, and it seems a relatively powerful one. He made contact with Saruman–we’re never told how–and thus gained access to a source of capital outside the traditional Hobbit system via foreign trade, which allowed him to accumulate enough economic control to emerge as de facto ruler, bringing in foreign mercenaries to suppress local resistance and beat down his competitors. In Tolkien’s writing, Sauron and Saruman represent the forces of modernity, tearing down tradition and continuity, and this is just yet another example of that, the social order being corrupted by money and power, undermining the Way Things Should Be. It is no coincidence that the counter-revolution is led by Frodo, Pippin, and Merry–scions of some of the leading families of the gentry–or that Lotho’s main opposition came from that same establishment.

“You see, your dad, Mr. Peregrin, he’s never had no truck with this Lotho, not from the begining: said that if anyone was going to play the chief at this time of day, it would be the rightful Thain of the Shire and no upstart. And when Lotho sent his Men they got no change out of him. Tooks are lucky, they’ve got those deep holes in the Green Hills, the Great Smials and all, and the ruffians can’t come at ’em; and they won’t let the ruffians come on their land. If they do, Tooks hunt ’em. Tooks shot three for prowling and robbing. After that the ruffians turned nastier. And they keep a pretty close watch on Tookland. No one gets in nor out of it now.”

The Return of the King, J.R.R. Tolkien, pg. 986

Of course, one of the primary themes of Lord of the Rings is the inevitability of change. The forces of darkness may be defeated, but the power of the Three Elven Rings are broken too, and the beauty of the Old World fades away. All we can do is fight to preserve what we can. And thus, though Lotho’s plot to establish an oligarchic dictatorship in the Shire is defeated, things will never go back to the way they were before the War of the Ring.

One of the interesting developments that can be seen, if you read the Appendices closely, is that Samwise Gamgee ends up basically running the Shire. After Frodo departs for the Undying Lands, he inherits Bag End, and presumably the wealth and prestige of the Baggins family. In FO 6, he is elected Mayor of Michel Delving, and serves seven consecutive seven-year terms. He has thirteen children, and is the founder of a new family line, the Gardeners. His daughter Elanor serves as a maid to Queen Arwen of the Reunited Kingdom of Gondor and Arnor, cementing his connection to the royal court, and her husband Fastred Fairbairn was made hereditary Warden of the Westmarch. His daughter Goldilocks married Faramir Took, the son-and-heir of Pippin Took, and the thirty-third Thane of the Shire. We aren’t told many details about the rest of his children, but it’s clear that the Gardiner family is in a position of unparalleled influence and power.

So, what does this all mean? There is an unfortunate tendency for these sorts of essays to be framed as REVEALING THE SURPRISINGLY DARK HIDDEN REALITY OF THE SHIRE or whatever, which is not the point I’m trying to make. When I write about the economics and politics of fictional worlds, it is usually because we, consciously or otherwise, base much of our understanding of the real world off of our perceptions of them. I think Tolkien was very aware of the sort of society he was depicting in the Shire, and that he was describing an idealized, imaginary version of it that never quite worked as well as one would hope.

There’s nothing wrong with that, but one of the consequences of modern life is that we’re so alienated from our subsistence systems that we’ve ceased to understand them. The idea that farming is easy or effortless, or that food is only scarce because of modern capitalism, or that peasants “had it easy” compared to office workers, is disturbingly common. We see a petty aristocrat like Frodo Baggins, and don’t see all the labor that goes into sustaining his lifestyle. We see a successful peasant family like the Gamgees, and don’t see all the tradeoffs and compromises necessary to scrape out a living. We see the hierarchies of traditional rural society, and because it’s alien and exotic, we see it as natural and idyllic, instead of merely a different system for organizing labor and wealth.

Tolkien liked to describe Middle-earth as a mythical lost past of our own Earth, and though that doesn’t really make any sense, it’s true he constructed his fictional universe from pieces of our own. That’s why I think this sort of analysis can be useful. By learning how the Shire worked, we can start to understand how our own past worked, in all its complexity and contradictions.

I think that’s important.

Map of the Shire (Source)

93 thoughts on “The Moral Economy of the Shire

  1. Both this and some of the pieces in Deveraux’s blog are really interesting demonstrations of the strengths of Tolkien’s worldbuilding. When someone with understanding goes into how the battles or the core nations work, it usually emerges that the system is reasonably understandable in the context of some previous human societies, and that the various throwaway references actually do seem to fit into a coherent whole, perhaps even more so than in some more recent and more elaborately constructed fantasy worlds.

    Part of it is that Tolkien was an academic and ex-soldier with lots of relevant knowledge, and part of it is that he has a good understanding of his underlying systems but rarely tries to explain them, he just uses them. In my own experience if you are trying to explain something complex, it feels much more credible if you only explain the top layer at first but can reliably answer questions on the layer of complexity below.

    To take your example, I am very confident that Tolkien *could* have explained how Aragorn’s tax system worked, roughly, because it would broadly be that of a medieval West European king, which he understood very well. But if he’d explained Aragorn’s tax system then a) he would not so quickly have been able to explain the deep details of that and b)the whole thing would have been desperately dull

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    • A thing that a lot of Tolkien’s imitators miss is that he rarely stops and explains anything. He’ll consistently and casually drop references to a fully organic, fully coherent universe, but because it’s so consistent, he never needs to stop and explain it. It ends up feeling much more real that way, even if you don’t technically get all the details.

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  2. I think there were some limited foreign trade, but long-standing fully integrated systems and so not as disruptive as the new trade routes with Isengard.

    That would be trade with and through Bree and either directly or via Bree with the Dwarves of the Blue Mountains. The latter needed food, enjoyed pipe-weed and their crafted goods, and perhaps metal ingots, were likely in demand by the peoples of the Shore and Bree.

    I do think the trade with Dwarves was direct because they are mentioned a few times as travelling through the Shire. They were considered strange but unlike Elves not as creatures of almost legend.

    So I always imagined some Dwarven mule and waggon trains showing up at the major fairs of the Shire, to do some trading. This trade would likely have been mediated through the elite families of the Shire. After Bilbo went there and back again, maybe one of those families were the Bagginses!

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  3. “I think Tolkien was very aware of the sort of society he was depicting in the Shire, and that he was describing an idealized, imaginary version of it that never quite worked as well as one would hope.”

    I am not sure Tolkien was quite so self-aware as this. In the forward to the second edition, he says the Scouring of the Shire was inspired by the way “the country in which I lived in childhood was being shabbily destroyed before I was ten”—I take this to be a reflection of the belief many people hold that “everything has been going down hill since when I was a kid!”, which comes from people who think this way not realizing it’s they who’ve changed, not the world. It comes from them not realize they’ve just become more aware of the world’s problems, and more burdened by adult responsibilities.

    The result is that the Shire is a child’s view of the English countryside circa 1900, unencumbered by any serious understanding of history, sociology, or anthropology. There are many individual details drawn from real life, which help lend it a feeling of verisimilitude, but they don’t really add up to a coherent whole. Among other things, the fact that the Shire has exactly 1 modern institution—the post office—makes no real sense but Tolkien has fond childhood memories of sending and receiving letters so in it goes.

    The idea that Sam’s relationship with Frodo reflects patron-client relationships in some traditional societies is tantalizing, but I don’t quite buy it. Sam feels more like a fantasy of how the British gentry would’ve liked to imagine their servants. Sam has no real motives beyond devotion to Frodo, which makes Tolkien’s claim to have based him on enlisted men he served with in WWI very strange—did Tolkien imagine they volunteered out of devotion to individual members of the British upper classes, rather than patriotism, outrage at German treatment of Belgium, and so on?

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    • During the British Army’s expansion of 1914-16, the recruiting did indeed follow people s social networks, so you could find entire battalions formed from the employees of the North Eastern Railway, London stockbrokers and so on. So personal loyalties did indeed help drive recruiting.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pals_battalion#:~:text=The%20Pals%20battalions%20of%20World,being%20arbitrarily%20allocated%20to%20battalions.

      “This should be a battalion of pals, a battalion in which friends from the same office will fight shoulder to shoulder for the honour of Britain and the credit of Liverpool.” 

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        • Frodo’s relationship with Sam has specifically been compared to the relationship of many officers with their batmen. The catch is that I’ve heard of officers giving their batmen jobs after the war, I’ve not heard of an officer bringing one of his household employees along as a batman, much less any cases of that being a man’s entire reason for joining up. “Local notable recruits a battalion of local boys” is not the same thing as “household employee enlists specifically so he can stick by his boss’s side”.

          IDK, maybe I underestimate the extent to which some British house-servants got their identities wrapped up in their job. Sam is in some ways the same type of guy as the butler in another famous British novel, The Remains of the Day, who is similarly devoted though the novel has a more satirical take on this attitude.

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          • “The catch is that I’ve heard of officers giving their batmen jobs after the war, I’ve not heard of an officer bringing one of his household employees along as a batman, much less any cases of that being a man’s entire reason for joining up.”

            Neither have I, but I would not be prepared to bet that it didn’t happen in a few cases in WW1. It certainly happened in earlier wars, when aristocratic officers would be expected to bring (and pay for) their own servants – not just a batman, but cooks, grooms etc.

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    • Sam has no real motives beyond devotion to Frodo

      Oh, hang on though. Initially he wants to see Elves and mountains and all the things he’s heard about in Bilbo’s stories. He wants to go over the hills and far away, just like lots of other young men who join the colours.

      Then once he’s been to Elrond’s council he’s committed to the mission; he’s been told by his old gaffer to look after Frodo, sure, but he also knows how important it is to destroy the Ring and, remember, when he’s given a choice between those two objectives (at the end of Book IV) he chooses the Ring.

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      • Having re-read Lord of the Rings fairly recently, I think we’re pretty clearly meant to understand that “see the Elves” is just cover for Sam being set on looking out for Frodo whether Frodo wants Sam’s help or not. In particular, when he gets caught eavesdropping on Frodo and Gandalf’s conversation, he claims it was initially accidental and then he tried to hear more out of curiosity, but later it becomes clear it was no accident, and he was spying on behalf of Merry and Pippin (because again, all three are set on looking out for Frodo whether Frodo wants their help or not).

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          • Maybe not entirely pretending—a grain of truth can make a lie more convincing. But the text is very explicit that Sam was concealing his true motives from Frodo, and once the deception is revealed, Sam’s elf-related enthusiasm gets dialed back to “likes hearing stories about Elves” and “raves a bit about Rivendell when first talking to Frodo after Frodo wakes up there”.

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          • I think it’s entirely possible for his excitement to have been 100% genuine, and also not at all his actual motivation for going on the journey.

            I think if one were to go to Sam Gamgee before any of the stuff about the ring came out and said, hey, I know where you can go see some elves, it’s only a couple week’s journey out of the Shire – everything’s handled here, you just need to get some things together and go see them – I seriously doubt he’d have jumped up and ran out of the door. He’d have probably talked a good bit about how much he’d love to go see them, but made excuses and not actually gone, even if it had been in his ability to go. Maybe I’m wrong – I didn’t write the character, and I suppose only Tolkien himself could’ve answered that with certainty – but I’d be surprised if he left the Shire for that purpose alone.

            Staying with Frodo, though, did get him to leave the Shire – even if getting to see the elves was probably something that helped him stick to that decision.

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    • Very specifically, Tolkien didn’t volunteer until 1915, by which time the old regular army had been heavily weakened and the first line Territorial Force (probably the closest thing to actual yeomen going) also hit hard, and what was referred to as the “New Army” was being formed with wartime volunteers. A pre-war Lancashire Fusilier might well have come from a very rural, traditional, and (importantly) Catholic background but these guys were overwhelmingly industrial or office workers from Manchester, Liverpool, or the East Lancashire milltowns.

      An army is a mirror of the society that raises it but this society was the most industrialized and urbanized society in the world at the time; the small peacetime professional army could be less so, in fact much less so, because it was small and professional. To give an idea of the scale of the mobilization even before conscription was imposed in 1916, Tolkien was serving in the 11th Battalion of his regiment.

      If I had to speculate, the relationship would probably be a more modern one of *solidarity*, as on the job, and battlefield comradeship – but this wasn’t something available to him in his imaginative and experiential world as a deeply bourgeois Oxonian, so he assimilated it to something he *did* understand or at least thought he understood (feudalism not being something thick on the ground in the banking community of Joe Chamberlain’s Birmingham, to say the least!)

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      • I think it is also worth noting that Sam isn’t the only character in the book who is very obviously based on the modern soldiers Tolkien knew. Think about the Orcs. They are recognisably soldiers, and, more to the point, bad soldiers. The Elves and Dwarves and Rohirrim and so on are warriors from myths, but the Orcs aren’t. They are grubby, foul-mouthed, backbiting, disloyal, shirking soldiers.

        “I’ll give your name and number to the Nazgul!” one Orc threatens another. You can’t imagine Eomer talking like that to a reluctant Rider. Riders of Rohan don’t have army numbers.

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    • Also on this: around 1900 was a historic nadir of British agriculture, which was struggling to compete with imports from the new steamship export powerhouses – the US, Canada, Australia, Argentina. The so-called high farming period was being crushed by the first globalization. When the maritime supply chain came under threat, this would lead to a dramatic policy shift towards protectionism and modernization and a big revival of farm incomes. But that was far in the future and I reckon he wouldn’t have liked it much.

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    • “the fact that the Shire has exactly 1 modern institution—the post office—makes no real sense but Tolkien has fond childhood memories of sending and receiving letters so in it goes.”

      Post offices are only just a modern institution – established 1635.

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      • If you want something that’s really prochronistic, it isn’t the twice-daily postal service in the shire, it’s the clock on Bilbo’s mantelpiece!

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        • Mantel clock “prochronistic”?

          Nonsense; there were plenty of mechanical medieval clocks (initially used to measure monastic hours of prayer).

          With dwarven-level craftsmanship available, such larger clocks (whatever their in- universe origin), could be made smaller. Hey presto, mantel clock.

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    • I think you’re imposing too high a standard of reflection for “based on”. Based on doesn’t mean reflective of their lives from beginning to end. I think Sam is meant to be reflective of the qualities Tolkien found in the batmen he knew, and the bond of loyalty that grew between office and batman. I don’t think Sam agreeing to go to Mordor because of Frodo is meant to be reflective of British working classes agreeing to go to war.

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    • “Sam has no real motives beyond devotion to Frodo”

      (Love cough of “good things” cough cough “worth fighting for”, such as the cough Shire cough cough and his Gaffer cough cough cough, and let us not forget the person of cough Rosie cough cough Cotton).

      True, Tolkien emphasizes Sam’s real devotion to Frodo; also true, he is with Frodo throughout almost all of the books, so the emphasis is to be expected.

      The proof of the pudding, (to use an English phrase of which Tolkien would I think approve), is that when Sam thinks Frodo is dead, he does not give up in despair or fall to the temptation of the Ring. It might be useful to consider how he acts decisively while he has “no real motives” remaining.

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  4. Thank you for an enlightening article, both clear and enjoyable to read.

    One thing the Hobbits can ignore in their economy is their need for a standing army. The Rangers protect them for “Free”, thus giving them an “edge” in the economic struggle.

    Real “Rural” Britain could not…

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    • Well, the real thing chose to have a small professional force funded by the taxes, backed up by a much bigger yeoman mobilization capacity.

      And, of course, a huge navy – which is something that doesn’t fit into the framework at all because it’s by definition tax-funded, heavily professional, and physically built by a vast industrial workforce.

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  5. Bilbo, Frodo, Merry, and Pippin are all very clearly members of the landed gentry, the landowning class that controls most means of economic production and maintains social dominance over the Shire. This isn’t really extrapolation or interpretation, it’s more-or-less text, and I suspect the only reason it’s not spelled out is because Tolkien assumed any reader would understand that intuitively.

    But there’s one absolutely colossal difference between Bilbo et al and the typical member of the landed gentry: Bilbo doesn’t have any servants! Sam works in his garden, but not full-time, and there’s no one else at all. Bilbo Baggins is one of the richest hobbits in the Shire. And he does his own cooking, day to day. He does his own washing up.

    This would have stood out a mile, to a reader of Tolkien’s day. And it’s made really obvious even to us because every other character we meet in the books is very conscious of his position in a vertical hierarchy. They’re lords or kings, or vassals of lords, or sons of the King of Mirkwood, or Marshals of the Riddermark, or Orc soldiers, or Orc officers. They serve, or they are served, or both. It’s one of the first things they say when they’re introduced.

    But not the hobbits. And it’s not just a lack of servants – no hobbit has employees of any kind. Hobbits work for Humans (at the Prancing Pony for example) but no human or hobbit works for a hobbit.

    I don’t think this is an error – the point about Hobbits is that they do not seek dominance, which is why they can resist the Ring. One of the funniest moments is the Ring trying to tempt Sam. It’s spent the entire book going “put me on, Gandalf, gain the power you need to save Middle Earth; put me on, Galadriel, become a Queen of terrible beauty and might; put me on, Boromir, become the leader your father expects you to be…” but with Sam it’s baffled and just goes “…idk you could have a really big garden?”

    Another point: yes, Hobbits like parties and feasts. But they don’t like big parties. Bilbo’s birthday party is completely unprecedented. It’s only 144 people which is not ludicrously huge – I’ve been to weddings with more guests. Tolkien would have been to formal dinners many times the size. But we keep being told that no one in the Shire had ever seen anything like it. It’s not “the biggest party since the Old Took’s birthday” or “since Master Brandybuck’s wedding” or whatever. It’s the biggest party ever.

    Why has no one had a party that big before? Because Hobbits cook for themselves and there’s a limit to how much one Hobbit or one family can manage. Bilbo doesn’t; he gets caterers in. Lots of them. On “Party Business”. He has bouncers which seems inherently un-Hobbitlike.

    Because the Ring has eventually, after sixty years, got its claws into his mind. Just as it tries to corrupt Men by promising them victory, just as it tries to corrupt Elves by promising them eternal rule and unfading beauty, just as it tries to corrupt Wizards by promising knowledge, it corrupts Hobbits by promising enormous parties.

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  6. This is excellent.

    I think we more or less get confirmation of the Gamgees being tenants of the Baggins from what happens when Lotho Sackville-Baggins takes over Bag End – he evicts the Gaffer from his home, something which he presumably can only do because he owns the land.

    That said, I don’t get the impression that they “send payment ” to the Baggins so much as perform service in kind. The Gamgees perform the gardening service for Bag End, and in turn they get patronage gifts and the right to use their own land for gardening and probably farming for extra subsistence.

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    • I admit, there’s enough references to the Gamgees farming that I sort of assume that they family works/worked some land elsewhere. Hamfast seems to be semi-retired by the time LOTR starts, but I wonder if Sam has an older sibling working out in the countryside on land rented from the Baggins?

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      • Aren’t most of the references to them as _gardeners_? Though including potatoes.

        My own take has been that the Gamgees and Holman were a gardening service for Bag End and other rich households of the area. As for their own land, Tolkien’s painting of Hobbiton shows the Bagshot Row holes having their own extensive gardens in front, though I don’t know if it would be quite enough to keep a family in potatoes. There’s also the land on top of the homes, don’t know if it belongs to them or Bag End.

        To be fair, Bag End also looks big enough to maybe need a full time gardener or two. Still, I’d like to think the Gaffer wasn’t so dependent on a single client.

        https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Bagshot_Row#/media/File:J.R.R._Tolkien_-_The_Hill_-_Hobbiton-across-the-Water_(Colored).jpg

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  7. “”it corrupts Hobbits by promising enormous parties.”

    lol

    The Shire does have some force though, not just dependence on the Rangers: it has the Bounders, guarding the borders, and we’re told the number had been greatly increased recently. So who decided that? Are they paid in coin (taxes) or are border families supposed to feed and host them?

    (My headcanon is that the Free Fair that elects Mayors every 7 years, also can act as a legislative assembly every summer, at least approving or vetoing proposals from the Mayor like “we need more Bounders and funding for them.” But it’s headcanon.)

    When Frodo sells Bag End, the Gaffer is described as being depressed about having Lobelia as a _neighbor_, not as a landlady.

    Baggins wealth being from land-rent would make sense, but there’s no mention of estates and tenants, even when Frodo is pretending to be poor and selling stuff off. They’re simply described as having _money_ — and for early 1800s England, there was another option, commonly seen in Jane Austen: government bonds, reliably paying 4-5% interest. The Shire doesn’t have the government for that, but maybe private banking? Investing in Took business ventures?

    So, the Shire has various elements that look recognizable, but as written I don’t think they gel to a fully coherent whole, or at least not a real historical model.

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    • Oh right, another comment. Almost everyone treats Sam as Frodo’s servant, including Sam, _except for Frodo_. When they set out from Bag End, he guesses (correctly) that Sam has overloaded Sam’s pack to spare Frodo, and Frodo intends to equalize the loads. At Crickhollow, it’s Pippin who sleepily calls out an order to Sam; meanwhile Merry treats all of them as equals in terms of bath access. When Frodo splits off from the Fellowship, he intended to do so on his own, without a thought for “my servant”, until Sam catches him out.

      Sam certainly acts as Frodo’s servant, but Frodo seems to accept it more than expect it, and to have no qualms about operating on his own (vs. gentry like Bertie Wooster being helpless without help.) You could view this as a very idealized master/servant or officer/batman relationship; OTOH, as mentioned, Bilbo and Frodo normally don’t really seem to keep domestic servants, and do their own chores.

      (You could also view this as Tolkien not having a good idea of how much manual labor is involved… I like to think Bilbo pays for a laundry service, at least.)

      (You can also view it as fuel for Frodo/Sam shipping, with Sam being devoted to Frodo far and above the call of ‘duty’. Or as simply Sam being committed to the success of the Mission.)

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      • Interesting observation. Could it be that there’s a cultural expectation in hobbit client/patron relations that the patron pretends the hierarchical relationship dynamic doesn’t exist (though clearly the client is expected to be deferential).

        It could also be that the Gamgees aren’t true peasant farmers, but are themselves a ‘little big man’ family (or in the transition between peasant farmers and little big men). Thus, Sam isn’t strictly a household servant but the son of a lesser ‘noble’ being taken into the patronage of Bilbo in order to build ties with a more powerful family. Frodo, not necessarily being party to the politicking between Bilbo and Old Gaffer Gamgee, has misinterpreted the situation as them being on equal footing. Sam, meanwhile, has probably been quite thoroughly briefed by his pa not to mess up this opportunity!

        Personally, I think I prefer the ‘cultural expectation’ explanation. Fewer assumptions, and lots of real-world precedent in the manifold weird formalities different cultures have crafted to smooth hierarchical interactions between those with power and those with less.

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        • The Gamgees are very much manual laborers, and the gardeners of Bag End; what’s less clear is if they work full time for Bag End, or it’s one client of several. Bilbo’s birthday gift to the Gaffer includes two sacks of potatoes and a new spade. I’d say _definitely_ not “Little big man”, though the Cottons (family of Sam’s future wife) might be another matter.

          Gaffer gripes a bit about Bilbo teaching Sam, though it’s not clear if he’s complaining about Sam being taught to read, or Sam being filled with stories about elves and dragons.

          I’d say yes, it is something like a patron-client relationship (certainly employer-contractor, if not employer-employee or landlord tenant; also elder-younger, Sam is second oldest of the four hobbits but still 38 to Frodo’s 50), but probably Frodo isn’t just pretending, he really isn’t into that dynamic. We do know that Bilbo, as a rich hobbit, was doing his own cooking, washing-up, and dusting, at the least, so hobbit society isn’t going to match cleanly with pre-modern English society.

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  9. Was expecting a discussion of the work of E. P. Thompson, who coined the term in his 1971 essay “The Moral Economy of the English Crowd in the Eighteenth Century” which focused on English food riots of the 1700 and 1800s. Thompson is best known for his book “The Making of the English Working Class.” Thompson contrasted the paternalist model of economic relationships where moral notions of reciprocity across class lines still held sway, to the amoral logic of pure supply and demand proffered by Neoclassical economists (which precipitated the Irish Potato famine, among others).

    “Thompson first used the term in his 1963 book The Making of the English Working Class in reference to England’s 1795 food riots. This “crowd” included “tinners, colliers, weavers, hosiery workers, and labouring people”, regularly rioted against grain merchants and traders who raised their prices in lean years. The 1971 essay provided a description of the traditional feudal economy as “moral”, in contrast to the “classical” (in the sense of an economy in which prices were determined by supply and demand). Thompson saw the “crowd” as active subjects, not passive objects.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_economy

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  10. Great article.

    Frodo, Merry and Pippen are all from the most elite families in the Shire, but they largely treat Sam as an equal.

    And despite being “nobility” they are scared out of their wits by Farmer Maggott and his hounds. If there’s some stratification between those who till the soil and their “betters”, you wouldn’t know from that interaction.

    One might also ask “who pays for” the other apparently prosperous societies like Rivendell and Lothlorien.

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    • One might also ask “who pays for” the other apparently prosperous societies like Rivendell and Lothlorien.

      Well, if Bilbo’s money is invested in gilt-edged securities issued by Goldman Took, then presumably similar investments keep Lothlorien going. That’s the great thing about being functionally immortal – compound interest.

      Which, of course, is clearly why Galadriel is so certain that the destruction of the Ring will lead to the diminishing of the Elves. She’s dependent on being able to continually reinvest in short-term high-interest bonds. While Mordor threatens the West, and blocks travel to the great capital markets of Rhun and Near Harad, the credit markets of Gondor and Arnor are starved of investment, interest rates remain high, and Lothlorien profits. But as soon as the Tower of Barad-dur falls, capital will flood into the West. Interest rates will fall, and Lothlorien LLC will be priced out of the market. That’s the true tragedy of the Elves. They don’t want war and turmoil, but it does pay the bills.

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  11. Which of course explains the real reason why the Elves of Mirkwood were so hostile to Thorin and his party. They’re on their way to kill an evil Dragon. Surely the Elves would rather like that idea? You’d expect them to speed the Dwarves on their way. Maybe give them a bit of a telling-off for trespassing at most.

    But no. Smaug is serving a vital function for the Elves; he’s tying up a vast amount of capital in his hoard and keeping it idle. Once the Dwarves recover it, they’ll put that money to work. Which is great for the local economies of Laketown and Dale – lots of investment, lots of infrastructure improvements, economic growth – but, again, it’ll bring interest rates down, which is bad for the Elves.

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  14. Late to the party here but this blog made me realize something else: the Shire has no courts. No courts means no formal legal system othervthsn the moot (which is only done in extremis), no public law and no private law. Hobbits don’t have contracts because there are no mechanisms to enforce them! Disputes can only be resolved through noncompulsory means, by relying on social factors and influence to encourage compliance with customary norms. That’s why the Sackville-Bagginses have a low-key, multigenerational feud with Bilbo and Frodo, because resentment spread out among “your people” is your only recourse – eventually, you might persuade enough people that you’re claim is in the right that it actually becomes true.

    This is also why “queerness” [Happy Pride Month!] is such an important social topic. If someone is “queer” they are less apt to be controlled by customary social rules, and therefore present a threat to the social order. But it’s also why everyone dislikes Ted Sandyman so much: he’s a shit stirrer.

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    • No courts explicitly mentioned. But when Bilbo returns in _The Hobbit_, there is mention of “legal bother”, though also of him trying to convince people to return his stuff, or just buying it back, rather than getting a court order. In _Fellowship_ Bilbo’s will also brings up the “legal customs” of hobbits, including having 7 witnesses signing in red ink.

      I’m not sure what Tolkien would have said on the subject if pinned down.

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      • Yes, agreed. Hobbits definitely have binding legal documents like wills. And they definitely have laws, as the Prologue said: “For they attributed to the king of old all their essential laws; and usually they kept the laws of free will, because they were The Rules (as they said), both ancient and just.”

        We see absolutely nothing of courts in the books, or I think in the Tolkien papers or letters, so it’s difficult to say how law is interpreted.

        The Mayor of Michel Delving is also First Shiriff, but a shiriff is a law-enforcement officer (as in mediaeval England and the modern US), not a judge (as in modern Scotland).

        Messrs Grubb, Grubb and Burrowes are overseeing the sale by auction of the late Mr Baggins’ goods at the end of “The Hobbit” when he turns up unexpectedly alive and halts it – they sound like a firm of solicitors, but they might just be auctioneers. It then takes several years for Bilbo to persuade GG&B that he’s still alive, but unfortunately we don’t see what form this persuasion takes.

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        • My guess is that there’s local elected magistrates and justices of the peace who enforce the laws—which do seem to be codified somewhere, given the number of details. Of course, that’s another traditional service and/or privilege of the gentry in a lot of societies, and I’d guess that the line between magistrate and landowner could be quite blurry.

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          • I’m pretty sure that this is what Tolkien would have said if someone had asked him – makes sense given the general feel of the Shire, his fondness for minimal government etc.

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  17. I find it baffling how people assume that Middle Earth is as poor as pre-modern Earth. Everything in the text disagrees with this. We have no reason to assume that agriculture in Middle Earth is as difficult as it is on earth so the complete premise is faulty.

    The dwarves could sustain an entire underground kingdom by trading for food with other kingdoms, a vast enterprise given the logistic difficulties which would require absolutely massive surpluses of the surrounding area. The Gondorians during a time of depopulation still have the surplus resources to encircle the entire Pelennor Fields in a massive wall and then are willing to completely evacuate that area! Name me a pre-industrial Earth society that could afford to completely evacuate it’s most productive agricultural area. Aragorn speaks of being able to feed not just himself but the hobbits as well by foraging and hunting in wild areas, speaking to abundance even in the wilds. The tiny town of Bree has need of stables and a massive inn, things that during the Earth middle ages would be reserved for a large city.

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    • Well, Middle-earth is technically supposed to be our Earth, just a lost age of history. Physics works the same, and so do most other scientific laws, and Tolkien’s magic isn’t usually used for this kind of brute labor.

      One way to resolve a lot of these discrepancies is to remember that Lord of the Rings isn’t an objective text, it’s Tolkien’s translation of the Red Book of the Westmarch, passed down through multiple transcriptions and translations. There’s a lot of room for error and mythic exaggeration to creep in over that time. 🙂

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      • Tolkien magic wouldn’t bring in the harvest, but it could totally give you more to harvest. We see this outright: Galadriel’s gift of ‘dust’ to Sam, which makes plants and the Shire in general super fertile. That may imply a lot about elven food production.

        I also headcanon that elves are mostly an orchard-based society, no plowing for them.

        We still have the pre-Sun First Age to explain, but oh well…

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        • A magical climate could help bring in the harvest by making it easy to stagger crops and reducing the labor crunch. If harvest could be done with the same amount of labor as anyone else, you could maybe double output per capita. That by itself would completely dismantle the political economy assumptions even before you start considering that maybe the harvest are bigger or you get more per year.

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      • Middle Earth as lost earth history is an idea Tolkein played around with and by no means cannon. And the physical laws regulating plant growth very clearly do NOT work the same as earth.

        Most glaringly: PLANTS GREW BEFORE THERE WAS A SUN!

        The shire and Eregion in general is a lush land despite being quite close to the arctic zone. Gondor has a mild temperate climate despite being quite close to the desert zone. Going by earth rules about climate, it’s simply not possible.

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        • “Middle Earth as lost earth history” is completely pervasive through Tolkien’s works. You’ve got Appendix F talking about translating the Red Book into English, or the Prologue saying that pipe-weed was Nicotiana. The Lost Tales start with Anglo-Saxon Aelfwine stumbling upon Tol Eressea and being told fairy stories, while the much later Round World ideas were trying to reconcile his mythology to the real Solar System (including getting rid of the “no Sun” period.) _The Hobbit_ implies hobbits are still around, but shy of humans. The dialogue of Finrod and Andreth sneaks in ideas about Christian salvation.

          As far as I know, Tolkien _never_ abandoned the idea, through Christopher dropped the frame when he published the Silmarillion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%86lfwine_(Tolkien)#In_the_later_Legendarium

          Is it actually at all scientifically and historically plausible? No, and I don’t think Tolkien ever thought it was. But it was still the conceit.

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          • You’ve got Appendix F talking about translating the Red Book into English

            …after it was washed up from the Atlantic and found by monks. The Atlantic as a connection towards the “other world” is a firm staple in the British mythology Tolkein drew from. It’s actually even far more common then that, the idea of the ocean leading towards the otherworld of heroes and magic can be traced all the way back to Indo-European culture because the idea is so ubiquitous.

            In the mists of the past and the mist of the ocean we find connections to the other world(s?).

            while the much later Round World ideas

            … is the START of this notion, playing around with the idea way later.

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            • “after it was washed up from the Atlantic and found by monk”

              Citation very much needed. I’ve never seen this anywhere, and the wikis say Tolkien never described how he “got” the Red Book to translate.

              “is the START of this notion”

              No, it’s not. I just checked the Books of Lost Tales, with writings from 1917. The original idea was Eriol visiting a Tol Eressea that would later *become* England, with Kortirion become Warwick. While in 1920 or a bit later we get the idea of Aelfwine of England, who then takes Eriol’s role of sailing to Tol Eressea (“driven by the Normans”) and learning about the Elves.

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              • Can’t remember where I read the monk thing so perhaps I was mistaken on that.

                Maybe the idea was floating around in 1917 but it’s hardly like all the stuff from that era was supposed to be in the same universe. Bilbo in earlier versions of the hobbit references China and China very much does not exist in the final version of the hobbit.

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                • And it’s all very tenuous logic in any case. Even if we assume it’s ancient earth, there’s plenty of stuff that is strictly impossible in earth even in the core trilogy (e.g. the Giant Eagles, a world with only two volcanoes) so it hardly makes sense to conclude that earth rules apply in places they make no sense.

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                • China being in the Hobbit is not an argument _against_ him thinking of it all being set on “Earth”.

                  AIUI the Hobbit started out as a random tale for his children; he plundered his notes for names and depth (Elrond, Gondolin, the types of elves) but wasn’t worried out it being coherent with his legendarium.

                  Later, with LotR written as a ‘sequel’ and more consciously part of his overall work, editions of the Hobbit were revised to be more compatible with LotR the legendarium. But it’s still all “our vague mystical past”, not a distinct secondary world like Tamora Pierce’s Alanna books or Kurtz’s Deryni ones.

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        • Most glaringly: PLANTS GREW BEFORE THERE WAS A SUN!

          But not before there was light.

          The shire and Eregion in general is a lush land despite being quite close to the arctic zone. Gondor has a mild temperate climate despite being quite close to the desert zone. 

          Tolkien actually said explicitly that the Shire is at about the same latitude as Oxford and Minas Tirith at about the same latitude as Florence, and if you superimpose the maps you can see that the scale works. We don’t actually know how hot Gondor gets in the summer because LOTR takes place between October and March.

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          • “But not before there was light.”

            Unless there is a terrestrial plant I’m unfamiliar with which grows by starlight, that’s pointless hair splitting.

            the Shire is at about the same latitude as Oxford

            Which would put Forochel at about the same latitude as Newcastle or Copenhagen (200 miles north) yet it has the seasonally frozen seas of the northern coasts of Norway or the Canadian Northwestern Passage, 1300 miles north.

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            • Unless there is a terrestrial plant I’m unfamiliar with which grows by starlight, that’s pointless hair splitting.

              Not starlight – Lamplight initially, and then Treelight.

              Which would put Forochel at about the same latitude as Newcastle or Copenhagen (200 miles north) yet it has the seasonally frozen seas…

              It is not impossible for the sea to freeze somewhere at the latitude of Copenhagen. For example, the sea freezes in some winters in Copenhagen. Invaders have crossed the Baltic on the frozen sea on more than one occasion.

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              • There are 5 Valian years (likely 50 of our years) between the extinguishing of the trees and the first rising of the moon and sun, during which time middle earth is not deforested and the inhabitants do not starve to death. The elves seem to be capable of getting by with very little food but the dwarves certainly couldn’t live 50 years if the plants weren’t growing.

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    • Some of your points are well taken. An underground city of dwarves getting all their food from trade is the stuff of fantasy. Obviously though, this being the Internet, I’m going to spend all my time on one where we disagree.

      The books pretty explicitly undermine the notion that Minas Tirith -can- afford to completely abandon its most productive agricultural territory for long. Perhaps unsurprisingly, as the POV character is a hobbit, hunger in the City is given a lot of attention: the book describes an enormous effort to evacuate nearly all nonmilitary mouths from the City as well as a past, long effort to build up stockpiles specifically to withstand a siege (“we have very great store long prepared,” Hirgon says), as a consequence of which little food is available for daily consumption in the City even before the siege begins (to Pippin’s repeated dismay, but as Beregond reminds him the first time he complains about it, “you have broken your fast as well as any man in the Citadel […] this is a fortress and tower of guard and is now in posture of war.”). When the siege actually begins, food is rationed down even more (“Food is now doled out by order,” says Gandalf, explaining why Pippin’s breakfast is, as the text calls it, “very inadequate.”).

      And even despite all Denethor’s long efforts to prepare the city against a siege, the garrison in the city openly talks of expecting to starve (“Nay,’ they said, ‘not if the Nameless One himself should come, not even he could enter here while we yet live.’ But some answered: ‘While we yet live? How long? He has a weapon that has brought low many strong places since the world began. Hunger. The roads are cut. Rohan will not come.’”). It is a fear that goes unrealized, because unknown to the defenders, Sauron and the Witch-King are desperate to rush the assault and so are unwilling to wait for hunger to do its work. But it would be unreasonable read all the spotlighting given to the threat of hunger and nevertheless conclude that Minas Tirith could afford to abandon the Pelennor Fields – all the mitigatory measures are very overtly just stretching out the time before abandoning the Pelennor leads them all to starve, in hopes that in that time the siege can somehow be broken. In that respect it’s not that different from the options available to the besieged in many historical sieges.

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      • Similarly, you say that “Aragorn speaks of being able to feed not just himself but the hobbits as well by foraging and hunting in wild areas, speaking to abundance even in the wilds,” but not only is this not what he says, he says the exact opposite. The party’s need to bring food and supplies with them is why the theft of their ponies causes so much consternation.

        To quote what Aragorn -actually- says about food for their journey, in which there is not the faintest suggestion that the party can just wander off casually into the wilderness and eat from the land as they go:

        ‘It is the food and stores that trouble me. We cannot count on getting anything to eat between here and Rivendell, except what we take with us; and we ought to take plenty to spare; for we may be delayed, or forced to go round-about, far out of the direct way. How much are you prepared to carry on your backs?’

        ‘As much as we must,’ said Pippin with a sinking heart, but trying to show that he was tougher than he looked (or felt).

        ‘I can carry enough for two,’ said Sam defiantly.

        [talk about whether they can buy replacements]

        ‘Yes,’ said Strider reluctantly, ‘you had better do that. I am afraid we shall have to try to get one pony at least. But so ends all hope of starting early, and slipping away quietly! We might as well have blown a horn to announce our departure. That was part of their plan, no doubt.’

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      • Agreed. Abandoning your most productive farmland is just what you have to do in a siege – because the farmland tends to be mostly outside the walls. So it’s something that every mediaeval city was prepared to do temporarily.

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    • The tiny town of Bree has need of stables and a massive inn, things that during the Earth middle ages would be reserved for a large city.

      This sounds very unlikely. No such thing as a large inn anywhere outside major cities in the Middle Ages? Oxford was full of them. None of the inns on this list https://www.historic-uk.com/Blog/Twelve-Oldest-Inns-In-England are in major cities, all of them are a similar size to the Pony. And Bree is tiny and isolated now, but the book explicitly says that the Pony dates from when it was one of the most important crossroads in the North Kingdom, where the East Road met the Greenway.

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  22. Tolkein grew up playing around Sarehole Mill, and if there’s one thing I know about the industrial revolution and the farming –> milling –> baking production pipeline, it was an absolutely brutal business that squeezed producers and customers to the bone, leading to adulteration and horrific lung diseases.

    But Tolkein grew up in the late 19th century, when alot of the pressure had been taken off, and the huge quantities of New World grain were being imported to feed british factory workers. Sarehole Mill at that point would have been relatively quaint and idyllic, because its economic importance had waned.

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    • That’s a really interesting point! Tolkien talked about how “growing up at the end of the traditional English countryside” affected his worldview and writing, but I’m not sure that he fully understood that what he was looking at had never been “real”, in the sense that he thought about.

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  23. While this type of analysis is fantastic, I’d like to push back on one flaw: Hobbits are not human. It is possible that they are a species that is genetically more suited to growing crops and living well on less than humans.

    Indeed, we are assured several times within the text that this is the case. It is likely that the poorer Hobbits are not as hard up as human peasants were

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    • I dunno about “more suited to growing crops”

      But realistically, while they eat more often and should have higher metabolism per body mass than adult humans, they should also need less food in total to support equivalent intelligence, which could help.

      Also, despite very prolific family trees and minimal child mortality, they seem to not have run out of land yet (and Eriador is mostly devoid of intelligent life outside of the Shire).

      And hobbits _do_ seem different mentally, with little in the way of true rapaciousness, or the violence to enforce such.

      So you don’t have landless laborers, nor landlords/nobles carrying off all the food above what’s needed for peasants to survive.

      No land shortage + no taxes = easier farming.

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      •  despite very prolific family trees and minimal child mortality, they seem to not have run out of land yet 

        1. But don’t forget that they also have very long generation times. They’re considered to be children until the age of 33. Bilbo was born when his father was 44; Bilbo’s father was the oldest of his siblings and born when his father was 39. His youngest brother is 18 years younger, so born when his father was 57.
        2. We don’t have many family trees; quite possible that wealthier families have more children.
        3. Not all the family trees we have are particularly prolific. Bilbo, Frodo, and Merry are all only children. Pippin has siblings, but his father inherited the title of Thain from his second cousin, which strongly implies that at the time of his death the previous Thain had no children, no surviving siblings, no surviving uncles, no surviving nephews, and no surviving first cousins.

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  24. Fascinating. So one could posit that Frodo, Merry and Pippin (with their travelling companion Sam) are one of those vagrant young-adult elite bands that you hear about (of which the Indo-European koryos is one expression). Of course, there’s a lot less marauding from our putative heroes (though they do violently depose at least two heads of state, so perhaps there’s more marauding than you’d initially think).

    To be fair, I’d say that Merry and Pippin feel more like the vagrant variety (one could argue their scrumping and general food-theft is their echo of ‘living off the land for a period at the fringes of society’).

    Perhaps the three of them were part of the same hobbit-koryos (hence their close personal ties to one another), but Frodo has graduated into wider society already considering he’s more of an integral part of Bilbo’s household.

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    • So, reading LotR, it would be natural to think that Merry and Pippin are spares, and become Master and Thain later due to the merit of their accomplishments with Frodo and/or the Scouring. (Plus their intimidating Entish height.)

      But in the family trees in the Appendices, we learn that they are in fact the only sons of their fathers — only child, for Merry. As only heir of the Thain, Pippin is _literally_ “Prince of the Halflings” (as acclaimed in Minas Tirith), or at least as close as anyone can come to such a thing. Frodo is wandering off with the two crown princes of the Shire/Buckland.

      I find it odd that Frodo didn’t try harder to send them back home to their families. I wouldn’t be surprised if Tolkien started writing with them in fact as random Took and Brandybuck, and only much later made the trees, without thinking through the consequences.

      Checking, I’m not sure there’s any clue in Fellowship that Pippin and Merry _are_ sons of the current Thain and Master, though the Prologue does tell us they become Thain and Master later. Pippin’s father being the Thain is attested in Scouring of the Shire. (Earlier, he simply says that his father “farms the lands round Whitwell near Tuckborough”).

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      • Aha! So more evidence that they’re part of some hobbit-koryos. Formalised absconding from one’s social obligations as part of a coming of age rite, prior to being integrated back into society and their expected obligations.

        Also, no wonder there was a power vacuum for Lotho to take advantage of…

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      • Pippin’s father being the Thain is attested in Scouring of the Shire. (Earlier, he simply says that his father “farms the lands round Whitwell near Tuckborough”).

        Strong “I went to college in Boston” feel here.

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  25. this entire concept seems largely predicated on the fact that Bilbo had an overwhelming abundance of wealth

    this wealth had absolutely nothing to do with the Shire or its economy, Bilbo brought this gold with him from stealing it back from Smaug the dragon in The Hobbit

    it’s awkward and unfortunate to me that the author spent this much time with such a lacking foundation

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    • Bilbo was wealthy (not obviously working at anything, and living in a mansion) even before the adventure with Smaug. We know that his father had ‘money’ and his mother, Belladonna Took, had even more ‘money’, with which his father built Bag End.

      “This hobbit was a very well-to-do hobbit”

      “most of them [Baggins] were rich”

      From _The Hobbit_.

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    • Bilbo is clearly a gentleman of leisure at the beginning of The Hobbit, and Frodo continues to live quite comfortably despite the fact that we’re told that Smaug’s gold was mostly exhausted by the time he inherited Bag End.

      The broader social dynamics of Shire society are very well-attested to, especially in regards to the Tooks and Brandybucks.

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  26. Hobbits are smaller than medieval peasants and would have lower calorie requirements, which should make producing more than subsistence easier.

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